Soooo. everyone seemed to fail today... My piece, probably the worst. Didn't help i went first, either. I think that counted a lot against my piece. Not that it matters, if we get to revise the piece it's not such a big deal. Just have to make sure to do a better job next time. try not to be so... linear and unimaginative?
Everyone failed, but I felt like we failed in a nice way. There was no really telling us how much all our projects sucked, it was a simple failing. I find it interesting that no one could quite grasp how to do the project the way Raph intended. Hopefully our revisions better suit his standards for this project.
I am also very nervous to see what he has in store for us for the midterm.
Fail fail fail. Thats all I got out of today, unfortunately...
We as a whole didnt preform as well as expected. I felt that Raph talked so much about this assignment that we couldnt possibly screw it up, but I guess we over thought it, or just didnt get it.
Frustrating, I feel that we are moving slowly right now and failing every step of the way, hopefully we, or at least I, can pull my shit together for the midterm..
I think everyone struggled with this project in that we thought we had an understanding and maybe we had it correct; however, the final product missed the mark. Of course, since everyone failed in essentially the same areas, it's safe to assume everyone is at or around the same place in understanding the class material. I'm sure that in our revisions we'll come much closer to the Raph's idea of how the projects should have turned out. I'm glad we have the weekend to recuperate, because I have a funny feeling that this midterm project is going to drain our souls. Have a great weekend everyone
Class went alright, but Raph was super late so it kind of made things drag on a bit. Everyone seemed to struggle with this assignment and I feel as though lately it's been hard for everyone to see what Raph wants in them. Raph said we weren't imaginative enough which I see, but I had a hard time figuring out exactly what Raph wanted from us. He wants all of us to do a revision so hopefully next time around he will clarify more. I was confused as to what he wanted because he said he didn't want our stories to be literal but for me it's hard not to be.
Response to Rob:
I feel the exact same way. The more assignments we are getting, the worse I feel and I never have felt that way before. Usually I feel like we get better as time goes on but it just isn't happening in this class. The first assignment was challenging but we knew exactly what he wanted, so I feel thats why it was so easy. The last two assignments I feel as though Raph hasn't been 100% clear with what he wants so I feel that's why as a class we are not doing so well.
It turns out that I actually did the assignment exactly the way Raph wanted it but we ran out of time so I couldn't present it. Not Really
In fact my piece when listened to may sound musical at times but I was trying to play with the idea of anticipation rather then the structure of the stanzas.
I think Raph has to many ideas for one project and most people are not completing all of them but are doing a couple. We get three classes of notes about all kinds of topic and ideas that we are supposed to look into one particular assignment that limits our abilities of choice and are asked to be as creative as possible.
For example the first assignment take 3600 images and display them with an audio poem accompaniment. With these types of regulations its hard for me to focus on narrative which I thought was the idea of the course. Although the course is called time based media which is why I don't understand why we are looking at narrative instead of how media and time are connected. When the element of time is added to media you go from a picture to a movie or a sound to an audio piece. These elements can be studied much like narrative and I'm not sure why we aren't focusing on them.
Oh and Matt whats this imagination bullshit you were saying at the end of class. Seriously saying exactly what Raph wants to hear. All I'm saying is that by saying the students aren't being imaginative enough is a cop-out for any real critic. Its like when my Dad would yell at me when I was a kid because when He asked "How my day was?" I would respond "good" and nothing else. Raph seems to tell us that we are not being imaginative enough and yet cannot explain further because he cannot contextualize his thoughts into what we can comprehend.
All we are left with is our self-evaluation of what we have done. Our work is our own. If you make a piece of crap and you know it then you will be left with a piece of crap. You cannot tell Raph that you tried this but you didn't convey your meaning correctly that's bullshit. If your piece is crap then fix it before the rest of us have to sit through and listen to it. If you like your piece whether it fits the assignment or not and you are proud of your work then by all mean I'm down for a review and critic but I know that some of us including myself at times do poor work because we could care less about the end result.
If Raph had forced us to do a music video of anything we wanted then everyone would come in with grade A quality work because they don't mind putting in the time for something they feel is a good portfolio piece.
So for all of us that are sitting bitching thinking that we failed the assignment and how not fair it was just stop for a minuet. Think about the good part. If you did the assignment their is something that you should have taken away from it. Even if its a small something its still something and that is worth holding on to then the requirement of an assignment.
I think today went well, because I sort of expected at this point that everyone was going to fail.. It is a hard assignment to get right the first time, and now that we have seen what people did wrong, I think that we will have a better understanding about what we should do to fix it.
Can't say that I am really looking forward to the midterm from the explaination Raph gave, but let's do it.
The key thing learned today was to try to implement sounds to represent what they aren't instead of just trying to use the actual sound. Raph used the example of the porche backfiring and altering that sound to create the lightsaber swooshing noise.
I'm glad we will get a chance to resubmit. I swear I will try to come up with a better, more creative narrative this time.
I dont really know what to think anymore, part of me is losing interest quick in these past few assignments. I thought everyone did a good job, I wouldn't call them a failure, I would say the concept of this project is a failure. All we can say is we tried, the class is over, no homework this weekend, and hopefully we can stop fucking around and do some cool cool work next. We spent too much time talking about this assignment to the point where we all were brutally confused about it, which led to our inevitable "failure" ........in short life goes on.
Today class was similar but a bit different then the A2 critique. We all still managed to miss the mark on this one but Raph was a bit nicer in letting us know that. In all honesty I thought that I understood the assignment this time, but I guess I didn't have it 100%. We all failed and that sucks. We will probably have to redo it and that also sucks. So lets just all be happy that its over (for now) and gee excited about the midterm.
Honestly I was really disappointed that our projects all "failed." I knew deep down I really had little idea what he wanted as he kept saying so many different things he wanted to see that I was trying to just crush everything into one sound clip.
I also was annoyed that the sound in the room just didn't pick up what I was hearing while working on the assignment. I might have to invest in new speakers when we are asked to redo the work.
I felt that our explanation of our piece determined if it was more successful or not. It depends what the viewer gets out of it. For instance a viewer may see a glass as half empty whereas the artist intended it to show someone was thirsty.
I was intending on playing with the emotions of the listener. I was planning on the structure of inviting the listener in to be comfy (opening door, quiet room, opening a book) with soothing sounds (cat purring) and then obstructing them with harsh loud sounds abrubtly. Then transition into a breath to bring it back down and end, with the same soothing notion.
I realize more consideration should have been taken towards a more formal narrative then something too linear as taking out the trash or too abstract that the viewer has no definition.
Todays class was nothing spectacular. I myself knew my project wasnt anything special but not sure what I could have done about that. I know im not by myself when i say that a lot of us didnt understand exactly what was being asked. Not too sure but I could never really get into this project. Most of the time they intrigue me and it pushes me to dig deeper wrork harder and put more effort into it. I did not like this assignment one bit and that does not mean i didnt try my hardest it just means things didn't click. Nothing got to flow. This project sucked
Todays class was pretty much what I expected. Everyone failed. No one really knew what to expect from the reviews, primarily because the project was so poorly described. The A3 discussed on thursday and tuesday were practically two entirely different assignments. It might have turned out better but the project itself was pretty mind numbing. I'm not in this major to make ambient soundscapes, and nothing gets me less pumped to do my best than a project that seems to be little more than faux poetic busywork. I do my best on projects that I believe in, and I did well in 204 because of it, the assignments in this class have so far seemed significantly less meaningful or designed than what I expected for a 300 level course.
Soooo. everyone seemed to fail today... My piece, probably the worst. Didn't help i went first, either. I think that counted a lot against my piece. Not that it matters, if we get to revise the piece it's not such a big deal. Just have to make sure to do a better job next time. try not to be so... linear and unimaginative?
ReplyDeleteEveryone failed, but I felt like we failed in a nice way. There was no really telling us how much all our projects sucked, it was a simple failing. I find it interesting that no one could quite grasp how to do the project the way Raph intended.
ReplyDeleteHopefully our revisions better suit his standards for this project.
I am also very nervous to see what he has in store for us for the midterm.
Fail fail fail. Thats all I got out of today, unfortunately...
ReplyDeleteWe as a whole didnt preform as well as expected. I felt that Raph talked so much about this assignment that we couldnt possibly screw it up, but I guess we over thought it, or just didnt get it.
Frustrating, I feel that we are moving slowly right now and failing every step of the way, hopefully we, or at least I, can pull my shit together for the midterm..
I think everyone struggled with this project in that we thought we had an understanding and maybe we had it correct; however, the final product missed the mark. Of course, since everyone failed in essentially the same areas, it's safe to assume everyone is at or around the same place in understanding the class material. I'm sure that in our revisions we'll come much closer to the Raph's idea of how the projects should have turned out. I'm glad we have the weekend to recuperate, because I have a funny feeling that this midterm project is going to drain our souls. Have a great weekend everyone
ReplyDeleteClass went alright, but Raph was super late so it kind of made things drag on a bit. Everyone seemed to struggle with this assignment and I feel as though lately it's been hard for everyone to see what Raph wants in them. Raph said we weren't imaginative enough which I see, but I had a hard time figuring out exactly what Raph wanted from us. He wants all of us to do a revision so hopefully next time around he will clarify more. I was confused as to what he wanted because he said he didn't want our stories to be literal but for me it's hard not to be.
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I feel the exact same way. The more assignments we are getting, the worse I feel and I never have felt that way before. Usually I feel like we get better as time goes on but it just isn't happening in this class. The first assignment was challenging but we knew exactly what he wanted, so I feel thats why it was so easy. The last two assignments I feel as though Raph hasn't been 100% clear with what he wants so I feel that's why as a class we are not doing so well.
It turns out that I actually did the assignment exactly the way Raph wanted it but we ran out of time so I couldn't present it. Not Really
ReplyDeleteIn fact my piece when listened to may sound musical at times but I was trying to play with the idea of anticipation rather then the structure of the stanzas.
I think Raph has to many ideas for one project and most people are not completing all of them but are doing a couple. We get three classes of notes about all kinds of topic and ideas that we are supposed to look into one particular assignment that limits our abilities of choice and are asked to be as creative as possible.
For example the first assignment take 3600 images and display them with an audio poem accompaniment. With these types of regulations its hard for me to focus on narrative which I thought was the idea of the course. Although the course is called time based media which is why I don't understand why we are looking at narrative instead of how media and time are connected. When the element of time is added to media you go from a picture to a movie or a sound to an audio piece. These elements can be studied much like narrative and I'm not sure why we aren't focusing on them.
Oh and Matt whats this imagination bullshit you were saying at the end of class. Seriously saying exactly what Raph wants to hear. All I'm saying is that by saying the students aren't being imaginative enough is a cop-out for any real critic. Its like when my Dad would yell at me when I was a kid because when He asked "How my day was?" I would respond "good" and nothing else. Raph seems to tell us that we are not being imaginative enough and yet cannot explain further because he cannot contextualize his thoughts into what we can comprehend.
All we are left with is our self-evaluation of what we have done. Our work is our own. If you make a piece of crap and you know it then you will be left with a piece of crap. You cannot tell Raph that you tried this but you didn't convey your meaning correctly that's bullshit. If your piece is crap then fix it before the rest of us have to sit through and listen to it. If you like your piece whether it fits the assignment or not and you are proud of your work then by all mean I'm down for a review and critic but I know that some of us including myself at times do poor work because we could care less about the end result.
If Raph had forced us to do a music video of anything we wanted then everyone would come in with grade A quality work because they don't mind putting in the time for something they feel is a good portfolio piece.
So for all of us that are sitting bitching thinking that we failed the assignment and how not fair it was just stop for a minuet. Think about the good part. If you did the assignment their is something that you should have taken away from it. Even if its a small something its still something and that is worth holding on to then the requirement of an assignment.
Oh yeah by the way I started college in 2003
I think today went well, because I sort of expected at this point that everyone was going to fail.. It is a hard assignment to get right the first time, and now that we have seen what people did wrong, I think that we will have a better understanding about what we should do to fix it.
ReplyDeleteCan't say that I am really looking forward to the midterm from the explaination Raph gave, but let's do it.
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ReplyDeleteThe key thing learned today was to try to implement sounds to represent what they aren't instead of just trying to use the actual sound. Raph used the example of the porche backfiring and altering that sound to create the lightsaber swooshing noise.
ReplyDeleteI'm glad we will get a chance to resubmit. I swear I will try to come up with a better, more creative narrative this time.
I dont really know what to think anymore, part of me is losing interest quick in these past few assignments. I thought everyone did a good job, I wouldn't call them a failure, I would say the concept of this project is a failure. All we can say is we tried, the class is over, no homework this weekend, and hopefully we can stop fucking around and do some cool cool work next. We spent too much time talking about this assignment to the point where we all were brutally confused about it, which led to our inevitable "failure" ........in short life goes on.
ReplyDeleteToday class was similar but a bit different then the A2 critique. We all still managed to miss the mark on this one but Raph was a bit nicer in letting us know that. In all honesty I thought that I understood the assignment this time, but I guess I didn't have it 100%. We all failed and that sucks. We will probably have to redo it and that also sucks. So lets just all be happy that its over (for now) and gee excited about the midterm.
ReplyDeleteHonestly I was really disappointed that our projects all "failed." I knew deep down I really had little idea what he wanted as he kept saying so many different things he wanted to see that I was trying to just crush everything into one sound clip.
ReplyDeleteI also was annoyed that the sound in the room just didn't pick up what I was hearing while working on the assignment. I might have to invest in new speakers when we are asked to redo the work.
I felt that our explanation of our piece determined if it was more successful or not. It depends what the viewer gets out of it. For instance a viewer may see a glass as half empty whereas the artist intended it to show someone was thirsty.
ReplyDeleteI was intending on playing with the emotions of the listener. I was planning on the structure of inviting the listener in to be comfy (opening door, quiet room, opening a book) with soothing sounds (cat purring) and then obstructing them with harsh loud sounds abrubtly. Then transition into a breath to bring it back down and end, with the same soothing notion.
I realize more consideration should have been taken towards a more formal narrative then something too linear as taking out the trash or too abstract that the viewer has no definition.
Todays class was nothing spectacular. I myself knew my project wasnt anything special but not sure what I could have done about that. I know im not by myself when i say that a lot of us didnt understand exactly what was being asked. Not too sure but I could never really get into this project. Most of the time they intrigue me and it pushes me to dig deeper wrork harder and put more effort into it. I did not like this assignment one bit and that does not mean i didnt try my hardest it just means things didn't click. Nothing got to flow. This project sucked
ReplyDeleteTodays class was pretty much what I expected. Everyone failed. No one really knew what to expect from the reviews, primarily because the project was so poorly described. The A3 discussed on thursday and tuesday were practically two entirely different assignments. It might have turned out better but the project itself was pretty mind numbing. I'm not in this major to make ambient soundscapes, and nothing gets me less pumped to do my best than a project that seems to be little more than faux poetic busywork. I do my best on projects that I believe in, and I did well in 204 because of it, the assignments in this class have so far seemed significantly less meaningful or designed than what I expected for a 300 level course.
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